“There are a lot of difficulties whenever you change to something new,” he said, comparing the CAR T-cell therapy evolution to that of bone marrow transplantation in the 1980s.
Early on, there were only two places in the country where a patient could get a bone marrow transplant – Fred Hutchinson Cancer Center in Seattle and Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. “Everyone said ‘you’ll never be able to do it routinely, it’s only at these two referral centers,’ because of the skill needed and the intensity of it,” he said. “But over the years, millions of transplants have now been done; they’re done at many community centers. And it’s the same thing with CARs; Novartis now has 30 centers and people have to be trained. It’s a new skill set, and it will take time,” he said.
That can be particularly frustrating because there are many patients with diseases that “might benefit in a major way” from CAR T-cell therapy, but who can’t get on a clinical trial, Dr. June noted.
“There’s more demand than availability, and it’s going to take awhile ... it’s like liver transplants – there aren’t enough donors to go around, so people die, they get on lists, and it’s really hard to see that, but eventually it will get solved,” he said, adding that the solution will most likely involve the complementary use of off-the-shelf CAR T cells in certain patients to induce remission and perhaps provide a bridge to some other definitive therapy, and ultra-personalized CAR T therapy in others, as well as combinations that include CAR T cells and targeted agents or checkpoint inhibitors.